Friday, April 27, 2007

thought for the day

A government truly interested in reducing its intrusion into the lives of its citizens would have no interest in "restoring faith in our government," because to get people to question the government's role in their lives, we have to stop with the smoke, mirrors and spin and let them see where government is the problem, not the solution, and demand that they surrender control of that area to individual citizens or the private sector.

8 comments:

Liam O'Brien said...

Well said.

While I can see some purpose for some social contracts and some small and very limited role for government and the like, I think the problem in Canada is that we have a political culture that places undue faith in the government to handle any and all problems imaginable.

We forget other institutions and tools in our society that individuals can use to make things better. Frum said it quite well -- ". . .as government grows, the ambit for real community shrinks . .."

The political culture we face now is part of a rot that started to set in back in the late 1960s and continued through the 1970s and 1980s.

I think we need to recapture that sense of urgency we saw when for one brief moment [c. early-mid 1990s] an eon of governmentitis was punctuated with a brief period of public understanding and acceptance of the need for reform, the dangers of public sector debt, and the possibility of a different and freer society.

Kevin said...

I agree.
I think the majority of Canadians just don't get the fact that the government has no money of its own. Corporations do not really pay taxes they just pass the cost on to someone else. That leaves the individual tax payer to pick up the tab for everything. ALL GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS JUST WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION. When you vote for the latest government freebie remember where the money really comes from. Unless you pay no taxes its you.

zolton said...

You guys seem intelligent, you cannot be this liner in you're understanding of the roles of government and industry.
If we were to privatize health care for example then the value of someone's life is quantified into a fiscal number!
What is the value of human life?
By thinking that privatization is the answer is for all societal ill's is incredibly parochial.
Current capitalism does not recognize individuals at the bottom of the system, does not recognize the environment. This system does not even take into account the continuation of mankind!
Only short term profit gain!
The system has great attributes but DIRE flaws!
For individuals participating within the system are not educated properly, the inverse occurs and their advertised to constantly.
People actually start to believe that a system created hundreds of years ago still apply's to society and new realities. They fight for this vehemently for greed and ego is a strong fore to counter. LoL

zolton said...

You guys seem intelligent, you cannot be this liner in you're understanding of the roles of government and industry.
If we were to privatize health care for example then the value of someone's life is quantified into a fiscal number!
What is the value of human life?
By thinking that privatization is the answer is for all societal ill's is incredibly parochial.
Current capitalism does not recognize individuals at the bottom of the system, does not recognize the environment. This system does not even take into account the continuation of mankind!
Only short term profit gain!
The system has great attributes but DIRE flaws!
For individuals participating within the system are not educated properly, the inverse occurs and their advertised to constantly.
People actually start to believe that a system created hundreds of years ago still apply's to society and new realities. They fight for this vehemently for greed and ego is a strong fore to counter. LoL

zolton said...

You guys seem intelligent, you cannot be this liner in you're understanding of the roles of government and industry.
If we were to privatize health care for example then the value of someone's life is quantified into a fiscal number!
What is the value of human life?
By thinking that privatization is the answer is for all societal ill's is incredibly parochial.
Current capitalism does not recognize individuals at the bottom of the system, does not recognize the environment. This system does not even take into account the continuation of mankind!
Only short term profit gain!
The system has great attributes but DIRE flaws!
For individuals participating within the system are not educated properly, the inverse occurs and their advertised to constantly.
People actually start to believe that a system created hundreds of years ago still apply's to society and new realities. They fight for this vehemently for greed and ego is a strong fore to counter. LoL

BBS said...

Zolton, I could care less if they "privatize" healthcare, although no one in Canada is advocating for that, all I want the government to do is stop telling me where and how to spend my healthcare dollars. If I want to purchase an MRI, it should not be illegal for me to do so, especially when the government can't or won't provide me with one.

A local charitable organization just wrapped up a 3 year fundraising campaign to buy a new MRI for the Windsor area. What's wrong with the picture when charities are fundraising for our healthcare and then the Province provides the funds to operate it.
Can Sault St. Marie or Sudbury or other locations raise those kind of funds to buy an MRI? Where's the "universality" in this?

I know of a businessman in Detroit who has four portable MRI's ready to go that could alleviate wait times in under serviced areas. Unfortunately, our Liberal government won't allow it. They won't even allow him to operate within the system and bill the Health department. The government would rather spend 5 times the money and time to produce half the service.

Kevin said...

Zolton said
If we were to privatize health care for example then the value of someone's life is quantified into a fiscal number!

Under the current socialist medical System that happens already. The government decides what is covered and what is not. Many people in Canada are paying thousands of dollars for drugs the government does not cover. People die waiting in line waiting for medical procedures. Socialism says that the system is fair if its not two tier (everyone gets the same crappy care). The system however is already two tier. People with connections jump the queue and rich people are more likely to have connections than poor people.

zolton said...

Hey the Liberal's had to cut transfer payments to the provinces after Mulrouney screwed Canadians. The conservatives are letting health care rot to attempt to legitimize privatization. (if thats not playing with peoples live I Don't know what is)
And we pay 5 times the money where did you find that statistic?
Thats bulloxs!
"Many people in Canada are paying thousands of dollars for drugs the government does not cover"
Well come move to Manitoba where the Ndp government increased the amount of drugs by 2000+ last year alone.
Every 3 seconds someone in the united states goes bankrupt due to health care costs. Not to forget to mention Drug pharmaceutical companies are patenting gene's and drug inflating the costs to governments who have socialized health care.
Oh and what happens to people with rare diseases in a privatized system? Nothing! Even if the company created a cure they will not produce the vaccine unless it produces a profit!
Yeah lets privatize!
Oh the comment of people dieing in hospitals is mute. Yes there are problems and the conservatives are not doing anything about them!
People still die in hospitals thats unfortunate. But by politicizing A death in a hospital while at the same time doing nothing about these problems is insane.